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2853  06-Sep-91 "Robert S. Dean"  MTJ#2 << I've had MTJ#2 since Origins, but ha
2854  08-Sep-91 CDF1@PSUVM.PSU.ED GEnie People Interested in TML << general int
2855  08-Sep-91 CDF1@PSUVM.PSU.ED GEnie to TML (Opening Para. Chopped) << Sorry

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Archive-Message-Number: 2853
Date:     Fri, 6 Sep 91 17:01:12 EDT
From: "Robert S. Dean" <rsdean@crdec8.apgea.army.mil>
Subject:  MTJ#2

I've had MTJ#2 since Origins, but have only read sections of it carefully
until today.  Has anyone looked closely at the Forward Observer Battledress?
This thing is supposed to be able to operate in temperatures of up to 1300
centigrade...which is to say that you could swim in a pool of molten iron.
Somehow I don't think that even a TL13 man-portable refrigeration unit would
be up to that kind of load.  (Insulation might take it briefly, but not to
_operate_ in, as specified.)

I am also annoyed at the article on space combat.  Leaving out the business
about maneuvering according to the Ref's Manual (I'll circle in this square
at speed 40...), the article states that use of a firing battery must be
given up for each sensor task above one performed by a ship.  I don't recall
reading this rule?  Does anyone else?  Perhaps some sort of limit is
appropriate, but in this case, a ship with a Model 9 computer and one turret
would have to give up firing to make two sensor rolls, but the same ship 
could fire 999 out of 1000 turrets if it had them.  Doesn't make sense to
me at all.  Maybe a limit based on computer size (one roll per size per 
computer operational) or something like that.  Wouldn't be a problem in
a one on one encounter, but could be difficult if you were trying to engage
multiple targets.   There is also a note that pinpoint lockons for targetting
can be shared among ships.  Since the info would only do you some good if
you had an _exact_ position calculation on the friendly ship giving you the
data (using a sensor in the process?) I'd disallow this one.

Rob Dean

A Horde, A Horde, My Kingdom for a Horde!
 

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Archive-Message-Number: 2854
From: CDF1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Date:    Sun, 8 Sep 91 14:10 EDT
Subject: GEnie People Interested in TML

general interest that I would like addresses and/or phone numbers to be
exchanged as I don't have the time to do this except on a general basis.

Anyway, here are some notes, unedited...


Item    0841162                 91/07/14        06:50

From:   B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago

cc:     B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

Sub: MT/TML

    The person to talk too about maybe having a gateway between the two
would be Scorpia to start off with.  I know GE has the capaability for
gateways, but whether they want to do it or not is another matter.  Offhand
I would expect not offhand, or at least the traffic would be one way
only (from TML to GEnie).

    Bryan J. Borich
    3890 50th street
    San Diego, CA 92105-3005

    SS&V (Starports, Starships & Vehicles) is an MT fanzine dedicated
to publishing articles and starship/vehicle designs.  Issues are currently
$1.25 each, with 8 currently available.  It includes one article and the rest
of the pages are devoted to designs.

    Alien Realms is an MT fanzine dedicated to publishing articles that
cover the Alien races in Megatraveller.

    Materials for the above magazines are always desired. The preferred
format is IBM PC 360k or 1.2m disk (because I generally lack the time
to retype material).  In exchange for an article, 4 designs, or one piece
of artwork the author will get a free copy of the magazine upon publication.
The author retains all copyright to the material and is of course free
to see about publishing it elsewhere (a fair amount of the material in both
these magazines are preliminary works where the author wants more feedback
before final publication in another magazine, usually the Traveller's
Digest or Challenge).
    Material in Amiga format is also acceptable as is submission via email
through either GEnie (B.Borich), Compuserve, VervanNet (Bryan Borich).

=END=

Item    9402319                 91/08/16        04:01

From:   B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago

cc:     B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich
        M.MIKESH                        Michael R. Mikesh
        ED.EDWARDS                      Edward A. Edwards
        J.KUNDERT                       James R. Kundert

Sub: USENET

    Okay I recieved that USENET material a couple of weeks ago, given
a year or two i might be able to sort through that material, I wish
even more now that we (HIWG) had easier access to that Net.
    In your last letter to me you offered to forward Bundles to me
as they become available. I would like to take you up on that offer,
if possible I would like to expand that offer if possible. What
I have in mind is that you could provide an Email feed between those
of us on GEnie and those on USENET, maybe a weekly link so it won't
take to much of your time? How do you feel about this? There are other
people who have this access so maybe the job could be shared (like
trade weeks or months). For instance I know that Farstar (James Kundert)
is on here and has a feed to USENET.

    You also offered to act as intemediary in my requests for use of
material from their mail in my magazine, if that offer is still
available, I would like to ask the following people to use their
material (I would also like to have their permission to have the material
used in a new Official GDW MT newsletter that is being worked on):

"Robert S. Dean" <rsdean@crdec8.apgea.army.mil>

Marc Alexandrovich Volovic <mav@cs.huji.ac.il>

Bertil K K Jonell @ Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg
NET: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se
VOICE: +46 31 723971 / +46 300 61004     "Don't worry,I've got Pilot-7"
SNAILMAIL: Box 154,S-43900 Onsala,SWEDEN      (Famous last words)

Scott Kellogg      (703)-739-0831 or (908)-841-4707
37 Robin Rd
Rumson, NJ 07760
c/o  tnc!m0068@uunet.uu.net

    I also need there addresses in the cases of those people I don't
have one for. They will get a copy of the 'zine once I publish 4 of their
designs, this might be awhile though as I tend to lack articles more than
designs, especially if I can use their designs.

=END=

Item    4410066                 91/09/06        00:02

From:   B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago

cc:     C.HESS4                         C. Hess
        J.ADAN1                         Jay Adan
        B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

Sub: 2300 TML access

    Sorry to ask you another favor, but I promised Hess to do what I could
to promote 2300, and I'm aware of a couple of people on the TML who are
interested in 2300.
    Also, could you pass this message on to TML members who are interested
in 2300AD (and in rec.games.frp?):

    Clare Hess, Editor of 2300 Resource, an official GDW newsletter on
2300AD is looking for subscribers to this magazine (which I would rate
as very good quality). He is also interested in finding people who are
willing to do what they can to promote 2300AD.
    Subscriptions to this magazine are $8 per year (4 issues). Mail
Subscriptions to: Resource Publications, P.O. Box 31146, Santa
Barbara, CA 93130.


2300 people I know from TML:
"Johnny B." <ccm007@deneb.ucdavis.edu>
ran el-Yaniv <yaniv%shum.huji.ac.il@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Yngve Larsson <yngve@tigger.softlab.se>
CHOINSKI@env.prime.COM
Joel Lovell <jlovell@smdvx1.intel.COM>

Clare Hess would probably be interested in the 2300 material they've
developed, as of right now however I haven't sent him the material these
people have posted to the TML because of possible copyright problems
(I wouldn't want to get anybody unintentionally in trouble, though I would
expect it would only happen by accident [and I have seen this happen]).

CLARE, anything you want to add to that (like foriegn sub costs, as I know
one of the parties is located in Isreal, at least I think so).

=END=

Item    7036472                 91/09/06        21:13

From:   M.MIKESH                        Michael R. Mikesh

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago
        B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

cc:     ED.EDWARDS                      Edward A. Edwards

Sub: TML / Imperial Lines

Carl -
     Bryan has a good idea.  We are starting an MT newsletter for GDW
called IMPERIAL LINES.  We can arrange to have sent out the free
introductory issues to those interested. But we need postal addresses
from people.  It'd be great if you or someone else could announce it
on TML, collect the addresses, and pass them on to Bryan for now.
(That okay with you, Bryan?)
     Here's the skinny on the newsletter, as I wrote it for TIFFANY
STAR.  (TS28 went to paste-up yesterday.)

 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
                            GDW Newsletter
     HIWG is going to do the MegaTraveller newsletter for GDW, to be
called IMPERIAL LINES.  As it looks right now, it'll be quarterly, 8
pages, and circulated from GDW.  Geo Gelinas will be chief editor.
     As Geo describes in his 8/13/91 letter to James Maliszewski and
myself, "Other things I would like to put into the newsletter are the
occasional deck plan, perhaps one a year; equipment, but maybe not
placing a single piece of equipment on a single sheet; essays on
various topics; scenarios and news relating to the issue's subsector,
somewhat akin to the old amber zone; maybe a cartoon; artwork; and so
forth.  In fact, in many ways it will be like the JOURNAL CLASSIC."
     Although the newsletter probably will not be the official organ
for announcing products, it will include product news.  And, articles
featured in the newsletter will have a nature different from those
in Challenge. We shouldn't try to compete with Challenge for articles,
nor can we pay anything for them.
     With this in mind, I think the foremost objective should be to
circulate "orphaned" official or near-official information.  Examples
include material prepared for products but did not get in, the
complete table of sector names, official alien homeworlds, and Second
Survey material.
     The second most important thing is to circulate useful
compilations, i.e. the Traveller Database Project (TDB).  Even if this
material doesn't make for good stand-alone magazine articles, it has
much use.  Some of the things John Meyers has circulated are excellent
examples.
     The third is to circulate amateur articles and essays.  The
newsletter might include reprints of the best articles that have
appeared in fanzines, plus new material, such as vehicles from Rob
Prior, and starport or alien essays from Bryan Borich.
     So far, here's how Geo is thinking to arrange the posts, although
this is still fluid:
        Chief Editor:         Mark "Geo" Gelinas
        Contributions Editor: Mike Mikesh
        Associate Editors:    John C. Meyers, Dennis Myers, ...
 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

     <HIWG has members that are interested in what we call
GIGATRAVELLER>  Yes, that's almost always what I've heard it called.
Of course, I'm sure no one is thinking that will end up its title.
     Curiously, Marc has heard that Geo and I are of the opinion that
Traveller would not be seriously harmed if they DID translate the
system to Tw2000.  This came out in a recent phone call Marc made to
John Meyers.  Despite Marc's comments at Origins about GDW having made
the decision to keep the MT rules system, he might be reconsidering.
     <Excuse me if I'm asking too much, but I'm really excited about
trying to get TML and HIWG together as we have more in common than
might be apparent.>  In Chuck Gannon's calls to me, he's expressed the
same thing.  He's astonished at the similarities, yet there's almost
no sharing of subscribers/members.  He very much wants to see the two
get together.
                                                                  MIKE

=END=

Item    4132300                 91/09/07        07:23

From:   B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago

cc:     M.MIKESH                        Michael R. Mikesh
        J.ADAN1                         Jay Adan
        T.MCINNES2                      Terrence R. Mcinnes
        C.BUSH3                         Clayton R. Bush
        S.OLSON4                        Scott D. Olson
        ED.EDWARDS                      Edward A. Edwards

Sub: TML archives

    Thanks for committing to posting the material to the TML, I really
appreciate it.
    I've recieved bundles #1-212 and I've forwarded them to those
who can recieve them, excepting Scott Olson [by the way I didn't
make it to the Post Office Friday, so much for plans], and I forgot
that Terry had a MAC, so my IBM disks ahven't done him much good yet.
    Is there anybody on the TML who can make the material available
on MAC and Apple II type disks?
    I'm obviously interested in all the material, Mike would be too
I think, as would Ed Edwards. Clay, Olson and McInnes would be interested
in Starship/Vehicle related material. Clay would be interested in the
economics material, such as it is. Gelinas would be interested in the
TDR (Traveller Done Right), as would most of the rest I think.
    In regards to Economics/number of starships available, you might want
to have the members of the TML look at the starports that can build ships
also, Tim Koors did a spreadsheet taking that into account to see how much
tonnage there might be.

    <TML addresses> Yeah, I'd be willing to collect them for the
newsletter.

    <GIGATRAVELLER> Yes, definitely, just a working title, just as TDR
is to the TML. Offhand I think the switch to the Twilight 2000 2nd edition
system would be somewhat okay, at least for character generation and
combat, although I'm not sure about the vehicle combat as such.

    <TML similarities>  Yes, there are a lot of similarities and a lot of
duplication of effort, though we both knew about each other (and more
of them knew about us, then vice versa), there seems to be a big
misunderstanding by them of what HIWG is. What little connection there has
been between HIWG->GEnie and the TML has gone mostly there way. And there's
been a lot of duplication of effort and waste of time on there part since
they haven't talked to some of us like they could have.
    Of course at the moment I'm not sure there is a good definition of
what HIWG is, anymore than there is a good definition of what the TML
is.

=END=


------------------------------

Archive-Message-Number: 2855
From: CDF1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Date:    Sun, 8 Sep 91 19:48 EDT
Subject: GEnie to TML (Opening Para. Chopped)

Sorry, but the opening paragraph regarding GEnie to TML commmunications
was chopped off.  Part of learning VM/CMS and XEDIT after being used to
DOS, UNIX, and Vi...

As many of you already are aware, there is a large contingent of people
discussing Traveller and generally carrying on as we do here.

Earlier this summer, I took the liberty of passing on some TML stuff to
Bryan Borich on GEnie as he expressed interest.  What follows are some of the
messages that have been passed back and forth.  I have committed to give it my
best shot to pass on either TML or GEnie messages as appropriate.  My
committment extends only as far as I have the time and energy and I told
Bryan that if it becomes a matter of passing personal messages not of
general interest that I would like addresses and/or phone numbers to be
exchanged as I don't have the time to do this except on a general basis.

Anyway, here are some notes, unedited...


Item    0841162                 91/07/14        06:50

From:   B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago

cc:     B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

Sub: MT/TML

    The person to talk too about maybe having a gateway between the two
would be Scorpia to start off with.  I know GE has the capaability for
gateways, but whether they want to do it or not is another matter.  Offhand
I would expect not offhand, or at least the traffic would be one way
only (from TML to GEnie).

    Bryan J. Borich
    3890 50th street
    San Diego, CA 92105-3005

    SS&V (Starports, Starships & Vehicles) is an MT fanzine dedicated
to publishing articles and starship/vehicle designs.  Issues are currently
$1.25 each, with 8 currently available.  It includes one article and the rest
of the pages are devoted to designs.

    Alien Realms is an MT fanzine dedicated to publishing articles that
cover the Alien races in Megatraveller.

    Materials for the above magazines are always desired. The preferred
format is IBM PC 360k or 1.2m disk (because I generally lack the time
to retype material).  In exchange for an article, 4 designs, or one piece
of artwork the author will get a free copy of the magazine upon publication.
The author retains all copyright to the material and is of course free
to see about publishing it elsewhere (a fair amount of the material in both
these magazines are preliminary works where the author wants more feedback
before final publication in another magazine, usually the Traveller's
Digest or Challenge).
    Material in Amiga format is also acceptable as is submission via email
through either GEnie (B.Borich), Compuserve, VervanNet (Bryan Borich).

=END=

Item    9402319                 91/08/16        04:01

From:   B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago

cc:     B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich
        M.MIKESH                        Michael R. Mikesh
        ED.EDWARDS                      Edward A. Edwards
        J.KUNDERT                       James R. Kundert

Sub: USENET

    Okay I recieved that USENET material a couple of weeks ago, given
a year or two i might be able to sort through that material, I wish
even more now that we (HIWG) had easier access to that Net.
    In your last letter to me you offered to forward Bundles to me
as they become available. I would like to take you up on that offer,
if possible I would like to expand that offer if possible. What
I have in mind is that you could provide an Email feed between those
of us on GEnie and those on USENET, maybe a weekly link so it won't
take to much of your time? How do you feel about this? There are other
people who have this access so maybe the job could be shared (like
trade weeks or months). For instance I know that Farstar (James Kundert)
is on here and has a feed to USENET.

    You also offered to act as intemediary in my requests for use of
material from their mail in my magazine, if that offer is still
available, I would like to ask the following people to use their
material (I would also like to have their permission to have the material
used in a new Official GDW MT newsletter that is being worked on):

"Robert S. Dean" <rsdean@crdec8.apgea.army.mil>

Marc Alexandrovich Volovic <mav@cs.huji.ac.il>

Bertil K K Jonell @ Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg
NET: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se
VOICE: +46 31 723971 / +46 300 61004     "Don't worry,I've got Pilot-7"
SNAILMAIL: Box 154,S-43900 Onsala,SWEDEN      (Famous last words)

Scott Kellogg      (703)-739-0831 or (908)-841-4707
37 Robin Rd
Rumson, NJ 07760
c/o  tnc!m0068@uunet.uu.net

    I also need there addresses in the cases of those people I don't
have one for. They will get a copy of the 'zine once I publish 4 of their
designs, this might be awhile though as I tend to lack articles more than
designs, especially if I can use their designs.

=END=

Item    4410066                 91/09/06        00:02

From:   B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago

cc:     C.HESS4                         C. Hess
        J.ADAN1                         Jay Adan
        B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

Sub: 2300 TML access

    Sorry to ask you another favor, but I promised Hess to do what I could
to promote 2300, and I'm aware of a couple of people on the TML who are
interested in 2300.
    Also, could you pass this message on to TML members who are interested
in 2300AD (and in rec.games.frp?):

    Clare Hess, Editor of 2300 Resource, an official GDW newsletter on
2300AD is looking for subscribers to this magazine (which I would rate
as very good quality). He is also interested in finding people who are
willing to do what they can to promote 2300AD.
    Subscriptions to this magazine are $8 per year (4 issues). Mail
Subscriptions to: Resource Publications, P.O. Box 31146, Santa
Barbara, CA 93130.


2300 people I know from TML:
"Johnny B." <ccm007@deneb.ucdavis.edu>
ran el-Yaniv <yaniv%shum.huji.ac.il@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Yngve Larsson <yngve@tigger.softlab.se>
CHOINSKI@env.prime.COM
Joel Lovell <jlovell@smdvx1.intel.COM>

Clare Hess would probably be interested in the 2300 material they've
developed, as of right now however I haven't sent him the material these
people have posted to the TML because of possible copyright problems
(I wouldn't want to get anybody unintentionally in trouble, though I would
expect it would only happen by accident [and I have seen this happen]).

CLARE, anything you want to add to that (like foriegn sub costs, as I know
one of the parties is located in Isreal, at least I think so).

=END=

Item    7036472                 91/09/06        21:13

From:   M.MIKESH                        Michael R. Mikesh

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago
        B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

cc:     ED.EDWARDS                      Edward A. Edwards

Sub: TML / Imperial Lines

Carl -
     Bryan has a good idea.  We are starting an MT newsletter for GDW
called IMPERIAL LINES.  We can arrange to have sent out the free
introductory issues to those interested. But we need postal addresses
from people.  It'd be great if you or someone else could announce it
on TML, collect the addresses, and pass them on to Bryan for now.
(That okay with you, Bryan?)
     Here's the skinny on the newsletter, as I wrote it for TIFFANY
STAR.  (TS28 went to paste-up yesterday.)

 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
                            GDW Newsletter
     HIWG is going to do the MegaTraveller newsletter for GDW, to be
called IMPERIAL LINES.  As it looks right now, it'll be quarterly, 8
pages, and circulated from GDW.  Geo Gelinas will be chief editor.
     As Geo describes in his 8/13/91 letter to James Maliszewski and
myself, "Other things I would like to put into the newsletter are the
occasional deck plan, perhaps one a year; equipment, but maybe not
placing a single piece of equipment on a single sheet; essays on
various topics; scenarios and news relating to the issue's subsector,
somewhat akin to the old amber zone; maybe a cartoon; artwork; and so
forth.  In fact, in many ways it will be like the JOURNAL CLASSIC."
     Although the newsletter probably will not be the official organ
for announcing products, it will include product news.  And, articles
featured in the newsletter will have a nature different from those
in Challenge. We shouldn't try to compete with Challenge for articles,
nor can we pay anything for them.
     With this in mind, I think the foremost objective should be to
circulate "orphaned" official or near-official information.  Examples
include material prepared for products but did not get in, the
complete table of sector names, official alien homeworlds, and Second
Survey material.
     The second most important thing is to circulate useful
compilations, i.e. the Traveller Database Project (TDB).  Even if this
material doesn't make for good stand-alone magazine articles, it has
much use.  Some of the things John Meyers has circulated are excellent
examples.
     The third is to circulate amateur articles and essays.  The
newsletter might include reprints of the best articles that have
appeared in fanzines, plus new material, such as vehicles from Rob
Prior, and starport or alien essays from Bryan Borich.
     So far, here's how Geo is thinking to arrange the posts, although
this is still fluid:
        Chief Editor:         Mark "Geo" Gelinas
        Contributions Editor: Mike Mikesh
        Associate Editors:    John C. Meyers, Dennis Myers, ...
 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

     <HIWG has members that are interested in what we call
GIGATRAVELLER>  Yes, that's almost always what I've heard it called.
Of course, I'm sure no one is thinking that will end up its title.
     Curiously, Marc has heard that Geo and I are of the opinion that
Traveller would not be seriously harmed if they DID translate the
system to Tw2000.  This came out in a recent phone call Marc made to
John Meyers.  Despite Marc's comments at Origins about GDW having made
the decision to keep the MT rules system, he might be reconsidering.
     <Excuse me if I'm asking too much, but I'm really excited about
trying to get TML and HIWG together as we have more in common than
might be apparent.>  In Chuck Gannon's calls to me, he's expressed the
same thing.  He's astonished at the similarities, yet there's almost
no sharing of subscribers/members.  He very much wants to see the two
get together.
                                                                  MIKE

=END=

Item    4132300                 91/09/07        07:23

From:   B.BORICH                        Bryan J. Borich

To:     C.FAGO                          Carl D. Fago

cc:     M.MIKESH                        Michael R. Mikesh
        J.ADAN1                         Jay Adan
        T.MCINNES2                      Terrence R. Mcinnes
        C.BUSH3                         Clayton R. Bush
        S.OLSON4                        Scott D. Olson
        ED.EDWARDS                      Edward A. Edwards

Sub: TML archives

    Thanks for committing to posting the material to the TML, I really
appreciate it.
    I've recieved bundles #1-212 and I've forwarded them to those
who can recieve them, excepting Scott Olson [by the way I didn't
make it to the Post Office Friday, so much for plans], and I forgot
that Terry had a MAC, so my IBM disks ahven't done him much good yet.
    Is there anybody on the TML who can make the material available
on MAC and Apple II type disks?
    I'm obviously interested in all the material, Mike would be too
I think, as would Ed Edwards. Clay, Olson and McInnes would be interested
in Starship/Vehicle related material. Clay would be interested in the
economics material, such as it is. Gelinas would be interested in the
TDR (Traveller Done Right), as would most of the rest I think.
    In regards to Economics/number of starships available, you might want
to have the members of the TML look at the starports that can build ships
also, Tim Koors did a spreadsheet taking that into account to see how much
tonnage there might be.

    <TML addresses> Yeah, I'd be willing to collect them for the
newsletter.

    <GIGATRAVELLER> Yes, definitely, just a working title, just as TDR
is to the TML. Offhand I think the switch to the Twilight 2000 2nd edition
system would be somewhat okay, at least for character generation and
combat, although I'm not sure about the vehicle combat as such.

    <TML similarities>  Yes, there are a lot of similarities and a lot of
duplication of effort, though we both knew about each other (and more
of them knew about us, then vice versa), there seems to be a big
misunderstanding by them of what HIWG is. What little connection there has
been between HIWG->GEnie and the TML has gone mostly there way. And there's
been a lot of duplication of effort and waste of time on there part since
they haven't talked to some of us like they could have.
    Of course at the moment I'm not sure there is a good definition of
what HIWG is, anymore than there is a good definition of what the TML
is.

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